The Spanish artists Cabello/Carceller (Helena Cabello and Ana Carceller) gave a talk about their art works at the Elizabeth A. Sackler Center. The talk took place at the opening weekend March 23-25, 2007, of the Center at the Brooklyn Museum, USA. They discuss the construction of gender. What is a real man – and a real woman? And present some of their political art works, in which they are dealing with the representation of queerness and lesbianism.